Osmia: Fully black with gold-coloured band on cap, on top of the cap the square ‘Osmia’ logo, barrel imprint: Osmia / 882 / F (fine writer), text op clip: Osmia, text on golden nib: Osmia / 2 / 14 K / 585, size closed 12.3 cm, size capped 13.5 cm, largest diameter 12.5 mm, dating presumably between 1946 and 1951, before Faber Castell took over the firm, the Osmai Supra 880 was not introduced until the mid 1950s, piston filler becomes visible when the rear (screw) cap is removed, piston has some slack, has not been tested with ink. The second pen: colour pearl/brown striped, text on golden pen: 14 K 585, otherwise no text, size closed 12.8 cm, size capped 15.3 cm, largest diameter 12.4 mm, dating between late 1940s and early 1950s, the push button becomes visible when the rear (screw) cap is removed, sac needs to be replaced.